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PIGEON_MAN
October 19, 2005, 3:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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HAVE KNOWN SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT IF THE BEANS HAVE WEEVIL HOLES IN THEM THATS A SIGN THAT THEY ARE GOOD BEANS NOT TO SURE OF THAT MYSELF ALLTHOUGH I,VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH BEANS LIKE THAT.


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jimmy white
October 19, 2005, 8:30pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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i wouldnt take beans with weevil holes in them, you could well be right pigeon man, the weevil might select the best beans, but would eat part of the goodness in the bean,and the hole thats left is open to mould and even other insects, i would preffer a fresh, clean skinned , fat bean.   unlike me, a has bean
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October 19, 2005, 8:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Agree about no weevils, Jimmy. Smacks of poor quality 'something' to me.  

Anybody know : does the weevil attack the beans on the plant, during drying, or while  in storage?
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Not sure about that one bruno but i know someone years ago who stored there horse feed and got weevils in it
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ben
October 20, 2005, 12:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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there`s nothing wrong with plenty of weevil holes in them,probably help with the B12
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jimmy white
October 21, 2005, 10:04am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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if you get wevil holes in your beans, your getting less bean for your money, like buying   polo,s    the mint with the hole in the middle  if you weigh a dozen weevil holed beans then weigh a doz,beans without weevil holes youll see the differance in weight,,,,,mean scotsman  
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October 21, 2005, 10:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Come come Professor White!!!  

Slightly askew on ra sums!!    

Takes away ra size o' they holes.        

Add back ra weevil sh**, an ra udder wee things wot 'ave got intae ra bean flesh  

Add back a' ra fungus spores,  an creepy-crawley eggs.    

Probably end up wi' more than ya sterted wi' - ye owe ra mill money man.  
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jimmy white
October 21, 2005, 10:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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weigh them and let me know your findings j,w
a bean with 2 or 3 weavil holes against a clean bean.

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jimmy white
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meant to add a p,s, in last post.
you know what PROBABLY  done, he followed a dung cart ,and PROBABLY  thought it was a wedding  
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October 21, 2005, 6:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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got some of the beans i spoke about in an earlier post, i paid £5.50p per bag,obviously if you got them straight from the farm they would be even cheaper.
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jimmy white
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are they this years beans billy mac  , whats your opinion on them,? pretty reasonable at that price really
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October 22, 2005, 12:30am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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jimmy they look like last years beans to me,as they have a bit of colour about them.they really are first class beans & definately no sign of weevil holes,they are far better looking beans than the ones i have been buying from my local feed merchant & cheaper.
they are in thick paper bags tied with wire at the top, the printing on the bags reads: st. cuthberts farm cornhill-on-tweed.
nice to hear from you jimmy as the last time i saw j. white in the flesh so to speak was many years ago in a very amusing video loaned to me by big jimmy home from armadale featuring the said j.w.
glad to see you haven"t changed going by your postings which i enjoy reading,cheers for now jim.   billy mclaren
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Billy,
       Your better off driving out to some local farms,and ask about wheat,barley peas,beans even linseed and rape..you`l find the right stuff in the end,and at a fracton of what shop prices are..the majority of farmers down here who sell pulses only plant the bean,or pea,to concentrate the nitrogen in the soil,the pea or bean harvest is just a by-product to them,they just like the rich nitrogen the roots concentrate.

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thanks for that ben,i"m certainly changing my views on pigeon feed in general & want to get back to the sort of feeding regime i remember when i started pigeons in the mid 60"s.
the problem i gather from the postings about the subject of beans up here in scotland is locating the sources in  certain areas for farm grown feed. i personally dont know of any in my area.
the beans i have just bought,were bought through a third party,he was able to travel & buy in bulk but if i had to travel down to the same source in my car & say pick up 10 bags max.it would probably be un-economical when petrol costs were taken into consideration.
thanks again ben  bye for now billy.
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hi billy mac  sounds as though their good enough beans, and as far as i can find out seem to have come from a reputable place,[well stored etc]   maybe just a wee note on the bean weevil,,,,,,the bean weevil attacks legumes either in storage or the field and may even completely destroy them .. in heavy infestations there maybe two dozen or more newly hatched larvae in one bean. when full grown ,the larvae form pupae in the eaten out cavity. as many as 6 generations are produced in a single season , and in storage breeding continues as long as there is available food left in the beans and a warm temprature.    the larvae can be killed by fumigation or by heating the seeds to  145 deg. far.   [63 deg cent] for two hours.
maybe a bit of interest to you.
glad you reminded me of "big jim"  6ft 4 ins and built like an ox, yet he was the gentle  giant who went out his way to help any one, and allways had a joke, and i bet you had a laugh at the old video, its just a pity theres not more like "big jim" nowadays, any way all the best billy and good luck to you.  jimmy
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WHATS THIS I READ MR. J .WHITE APPEARING IN A VIDEO KEPT QUITE ABOUT THAT ONE HOPE IT WASN,T A BLUE ONE JIM.HAVE WE GOT A FAMOUS FILM STAR ON THE FORUM.IS IT STILL AVAILABLE OR WAS IT COMPLEATLY SOLD OUT ON RELEASH.


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hi pigeon man the videos were a complete sellout    the two of them were sold right out in under 3 months
it was just a couple of amateur videos taken years ago  and off course it wasnt a blue one it was a white one cheers pigeon man [ i think there are some illegal copies going round now ]
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I fed farm beans for years but last season the birds did not want to eat them . Was telling my friend as he gets his beans from the same local farm. several other flyers had the same problems We took a smple of the beans to be tested and found out that the beans were contaminated with mouse and rat's urine. this season. Flew on a red widohood mix and had no problems




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October 27, 2005, 10:19am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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what are members views on gerry plus as are beans best for distance birds???
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Peanuts are best for the distance, as many as they want an hour B4 they are basketed. Read Jack Barkels comments on Peanuts, very good reading.
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