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yes that was the place  clockman , i last got beans there about 5 years ago, also white protein peas all were exellent,,, what do you think was wrong with them recently, was it this years crop?

ROSE,VERY INTERESTED TO READ YOUR THOUGHTS ON BEANS I WENT BACK TO USING THEM ABOUT 2 OR 3 SEASONS AGO AND HAVN,T LOOKED BACK SINCE WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WAS THE FACT YOU SAY YOU LIKE YOUNG BEANS STRAIGHT FROM THE FIELD,I WAS ALLWAYS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IF YOU GAVE BIRDS NEW BEANS IT WOULD SCOURE THEM AND CAUSE LOOSE DROPPINGS OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT THE CASE.WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED ON YOUR FURTHER THOUGHTS.

well i think beans realy do work i remember years ago when my dad had birds this man asked him if he had a good distance bird my dad said he did he told him to feed him on  beans only & the last week before race to feed him maize only.
also to pick out his races his first channel race that season was the 500mile race from neveres he was fisrt club,fed,combine so these do realy work maybe not for sprinters

SPEEDBIRD,USED 50% BEANS THIS YEAR TO FEED MY SPRINTERS BEST YEAR I HAVE EVER HAD WON THE INLAND AVE.FIRST TIME IN OVER 35 YEARS.INFACT NOW I,VE GONE BACK TO BEAN FEEDING USE THEM TO FEED ALL MY BIRDS AT 50%.

what else did you add with the beans?

no comment on the 60s   grandpa  broon   ha ha

I MUST SAY THAT I ADDED A DIFFERENT MIXTURE TO THEM DEPENDING ON WHICH BIRDS I WAS FEEDING,

the  birds tell you what they want, and at what time of year, i,e theyll throw the maize out whilst feeding young, theyll want more protein whilst moulting, and the racing feed will depend on what races you intend to race, after the moult the birds tend to eat less, its at this time ,you dont want too much fat on them, as fat hens,have difficulty in laying, but on saying that ,nature again takes over, as they tend to loose weight naturaly, when pairing and driving.

Ok so if i,m going out to buy a couple of bags today to see me over the next wee while what should i be asking for? a bag of beans and a bag of high protein mixture to mix through it or what?
Celtic

dear celtic,
 as my birds are still just cleaning up in the moult,i am still feeding 50% beans,& 50% moulting mix.my suggestion would be that you do the same,so buy yourself a bag of each & mix as above.Beans have about 26% protein anyway. All the best Billy

Hi pigeon_man we never had any problems with beans straight from the field in fact we had our best years on beans like that just bought a ton like that now  Im thinking of trying my sprinters on beans as well next year not sure whether to just mix some with mixture as i will probably race roundabout might try one lot on beans the others on mixture see if there is any difference in their performances  Think a lot of people are led to believe that u cant win on beans and dont try them or perhaps they think a £4 bag of beans cant be as good as a £8 bag of mixture

CHEERS FOR THAT ROSE ALSO WENT ON SUNDAY TO GET SOME MORE BEANS THEY ARE A NEW CROP SAME PRICE AS YOURS £4.00PER BAG YOU JUST CANT GO WRONG.

Billymac
Where do you go for your feed?

WISH I CAN GET BEANS FOR £4 DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANY FARMS AROUND FIFE /PERTH THAT SELLS BEANS WE ARE PAYING OVER £7 A BAG

hello again celtic,
                       im sorry i dont know which area you live in but i get my feed from woodside farm feeds(tom law)torwood by larbert,falkirk.i think the beans are about the same price that clockman is quoting for beans in his area.
                       the last time i got my feed i noticed that the beans had changed from old to new crop,but still a nice bean & still nice firm droppings with these,if you live in the glasgow area i do know of someone who i heard was going down to the borders to uplift several tons of beans from a farm there,i intend to sample these shortly & i know they will be cheaper than what i pay just now. billy

i think i will try one of my old birds sectons on beans  and will only be going for the longer races  i have got 12 birds in it and they are 2years to 5years old i will only be racing them in the club 150 mile race them the snfc inland race then i will pick one of the 500 mile races to send some to as there is a 500 mile club races any thoughts on my plan all help would be appreciated

Hi,
    It`s cheaper to buy beans now,than 25 years ago,£2.50 for tics or massive horse beans56lbs ,load and bag yourself.
    You`ll find NOTHING better for the birds,whatever you pay,or where you go..for sure..you can`t beat `em.
   If your a bit scared ifyou think they are too fresh,just do what our old man used to,get a bagfull,when they come staight in from being havested,Sept time,then bred a pair of latebreds off a stockpair useing the beans only.If your happy with the droppings ect..book in a seasons supply.
  I just bought a load for my nephew ,after testing his birds with the beans for several days....the droppings should tell you all you need to know.
 Hopper fed,they will keep in wonderful condition,on open hole ect....
 Never be afraid of losing control over the birds,they will do somersaults to dive for the loft if you trap useing a bit of mixture,or maize,even as Rose says,penuts(bit expensive).
BUT,youMUST put in the fat to win at the distance,smallseeds,maize,peanuts,or even oil over the feed,...but if you don`t put the fat`s into them at the end,you`ll be down the pan¬

i would certainly agree with beans for the distance, but would also feed a mix nearer the time, of the race and even a handfull of mix whilst feeding beans, the reason for this is they could be a long time in the basket, longer still if its holdovers, the convoy of birds are usualy fed a mix, so they will be used to eating this , they could be anything from 4 to 8 days in the basket, and really have to eat all they can eat,during this time.,, and i think not to be confused at sending fat birds and putting the fats, into them,,,pigeons will never get fat on beans, but they will have body , ,,,a good idea with ben  there, rear up latebreds on the beans you get, if the latebreds are not perfect the beans are not.

rose, do you get much trouble with weevil holes in your farm beans & do you think they pose any harm to the birds. billy

thats good thing about feeding individual boxes can feed them all different if you wish to