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jimmy white |
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does anyone use peanuts in preparing birds for longer races or any other uses |
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Always give mine peanuts when the longer racers come along, and on day of basketing give em as many as they want. And they are getting a few a day now for the moult. |
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shadow |
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Yes Jimmy I use peanuts for the longer races each bird going to the race gets 3 every day as a treat and I only use peanuts fit for human consumption, not the ones sold as wild bird food. Peanuts can carry a lot of toxins and mould which you can not see with the naked eye. also if they are not stored right they soon get a fungus on them. I dont feed many as you know pigeons will gorge them selves on them and the are fattening  fly hard fly fair |
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snowy |
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ive tried a few times to give mine some, but they never touch them, even tried when they are hungry, & even broke them up a bit |
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jimmy white |
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once they get the taste of them they will eat them with relish, but as shadow says they are very fattening,i found them very usefull for the the longer races and in the rearing of young birds, and as i say once they get the taste of them ,theyll go daft on them , so broken down a bit are very handy in keeping birds tame, i used to also buy them for human consumtion , a little at a time. i found i was eating them myself, and my droppings were more like a nutty bar  p.s not salted peanuts |
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speedbird |
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started my yb on em this year & love em gonna start ob during winter to get use to em |
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| bruno |
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Just a note in support of what Shadow says about toxins.  Peanuts for 'animal' consumption are allowed by law to have a 5% aflotoxin (mould) contamination. Peanuts for human consumption are required by law to have 0% contamination. |
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carl |
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Quoted from snowy
ive tried a few times to give mine some, but they never touch them, even tried when they are hungry, & even broke them up a bit
Snowy a freind and good flyer told me he stopped feeding peanuts for one youngbird season and these youngbirds never ate them in the future seasons but the ones that always got peanuts love them. I always treat my birds to a few peanuts a few days before the race.my stock get a treat now and then also. |
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speedbird |
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old birds have had em in the past & loved em |
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My main aim and love is long distance racing also Chipping
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Have used peanunts in the past used to chope them in blender mix them with groats and gave to the birds wen on there return from there night toss about nine to half nine they loved them. But only the ones for human consumption. |
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Rose |
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I get peanuts for human consumption by the sack give them to all my birds |
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| Speight |
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Quoted from Rose
I get peanuts for human consumption by the sack give them to all my birds
Rose, how often do you gives birds a pen nuts, every days? |
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snowy |
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took mine a while to get used to peanuts, used to chop them first till they got the taste, now they love em as a treat, i also crush a few & mix with the corn during the moult. |
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| Speight |
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Snowy, do you have to put nuts in mircowave for 15 seconds to stop get sickness? |
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Peckedhen |
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Does this kill any bacteria or mould Speight? I use bird peanuts as those for human consumption are expensive. I'm having second thoughts after reading this thread.  |
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| Hyacinth |
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I prefer not to use peanuts of any description, would rather use Safflower to build them up for the longer races |
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| Speight |
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Hyacinth, does peanuts makes pigeons thrisk or not because there's a lot of salts in peanuts is it? |
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Quoted from Peckedhen
Does this kill any bacteria or mould Speight? I use bird peanuts as those for human consumption are expensive. I'm having second thoughts after reading this thread. 
Peckedhen, I'm only 17 half years old, still learning about things that pigeons needs, but i've heard some fanciers does put peanuts in the mircowave, for 15 seconds, on the basketting day as many as they want to eat peanuts to stop get sickness in the baskets, for long channels, I havent try yet and will try peanuts next year for new YBs 2006 I hope someone can answer your question, |
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speckled |
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i give mine peanuts, but only as a treat,Mine are brought from the health shop, "Red Skins",during racing the pigeons are only given them when thay are in the loft, & in there boxes.Speckled |
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| Speight |
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I've read in the book about Gerard Koopman gives Peanuts and Cheese in the Blender mixture to give a pigeons, says there's a lot of Portien, wonder if pigeons likes Cheese or not.
Has anyone gave cheese/pea nuts in the blender mixed or not? |
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jimmy white |
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snowy |
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dont give them salted peanuts speight, just ones for human consumption, not roasted or anything, just plain nuts(red skins) |
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speckled |
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 well ya be putting  that,  Krafty  remarke on burnt toast. then Jimmy lol. |
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| Speight |
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OK plain nuts (red skins) - how often do you gives them ? Every day or on the basketting day?
I never try any nuts yet and will try next year. |
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Quoted from jimmy_white
Do you still gives Cheese/Nuts? Do you used to put your cheeses/nuts in the blender to put in the corns mixutre foods or seperate? |
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Shogun |
| November 7, 2005, 10:27pm |
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Chipping
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An excerpt from Bob Rowland's article: "for the longer distances I use omega 3 oils which are such as Flax seed oil, hemp oil, walnut oil, olive oil, rape seed oil, cod liver oil, and so forth. I DO NOT use oils such as corn oil, wheat germ oil, sunflower oil, safflower oil, etc.... These are high in saturated fats or better known as n-6's (Omega 6)." Full article can be found here: http://www.pigeonbasics.com/articles/article17.htmlJust sharing worthwhile information  |
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jimmy white |
| November 7, 2005, 10:42pm |
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i dont race now but in the past ive broken bits off a lump of cheese rolled it in to a ball and fed them this as a tit bit, took a bit of getting used to at first ,but once they got the taste they ate it no bother, im still laughing at speckleds post, trust her, [cant find smillies], even done the same with burnt toast,,true, the charcoal is good for them as well,, daft as it all may sound. no speckled im not going to try fish and chips next, mind you the vineger might help, [ smillies] there cumin to take me away ha ha |
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| Hyacinth |
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Craig
We don't give our birds salted peanuts. |
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| Speight |
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Quoted from Peckedhen
Does this kill any bacteria or mould Speight? I use bird peanuts as those for human consumption are expensive. I'm having second thoughts after reading this thread. 
A friend of mine says "To make sure peanuts are free of Aflotoxin. Aflatoxin is produced by the fungus Aspergillus flavus. ..." |
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jimmy white |
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peanuts should be for human consumtion, and bought in small ammounts, i used to give them peanuts whole whilst preparing for longer races.. in the shorter races, i would use them broken up and very sparingly ,more or less for a tit bit, p.s they are very fattening, and off course only pure clean peanuts, not salted. |
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Rose |
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Im lucky on that one jimmy we get peanuts for human consumption they meant for the birds really but i think me and the dog eat most of them our distance birds tend to get quite a few before they go |
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jimmy white |
| November 8, 2005, 10:16am |
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| bruno |
| November 8, 2005, 11:19am |
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On the subject of eating waiting on birds coming home, used to do the same with the mixture in the tin that was supposed to be 'the rattle', with me as the whistle.  Only trouble then was 'whistle' usually dried up and I needed a drink to get it working again.  Can't really comment on peanuts other than what I've already said about 'human' and redskins. Remember they do go off quickly, so maybe the little 38p bags out of Asda are the safest way... Just a general comment on feeding 'X' before going in the basket for a number of days; Wondered if it made any difference on the bird's performance 72 hours later when it would really be flying on whatever it was given in the basket the night before? Nowadays that would seem to be cribbed maize. |
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| November 8, 2005, 11:21am |
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Good reading on peanuts, if you go to http://www.allpets.co.za/allpigeons/steven/peanuts.htm, this is enough confirmation for me to use peanuts. I chop red skin peanuts into quarters (takes ages, but its worth it) and microwave them for 10-15 seconds, let them cool down and give the birds as many as they want for there last feed B4 basketing for the channel. They absolutely LOVE peanuts and will follow you round the garden once you start to give them. |
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This year I spun some peanuts in a blender, just so they come in smaller pieces, and then used it to supplement my trapping mix. Didnt have to use a lot, but they knew first one in got the peanuts; never had birds trap like these. |
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Chatrace |
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We use Raw Spanish Peanuts.whole ,not chopped. like to get 3 or 4 in each bird for the 200 and 300 mile races |
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| Speight |
| November 8, 2005, 10:36pm |
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Quoted from Chatrace
We use Raw Spanish Peanuts.whole ,not chopped. like to get 3 or 4 in each bird for the 200 and 300 mile races
Chatrace, what about short races? |
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slugmonkey |
| November 16, 2005, 2:29pm |
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I have never fed peanuts am curious about the microwaving though are you concerned about destroying the nutrients as many vitamins are very heat sensitive |
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| Speight |
| November 16, 2005, 2:55pm |
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WHAT AGE CAN I GIVES YOUNG BIRDS FOR PEANUT'S E.G 24 DAYS OLD OR 30 DAYS OLD. |
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CREBAG |
| November 16, 2005, 4:18pm |
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hyacynths i think has the best idea, safflour or shelled sunflower seeds has near the same content as peanuts, as ive read of problems feeding peanuts although ive not personally experienced them myself. But pigeons do love peanuts!! |
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symbro |
| November 16, 2005, 7:53pm |
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what type of peanuts? raw? the only peanuts my farmers feed had were in the shell. |
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CREBAG |
| November 16, 2005, 10:15pm |
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GET HOLD OF SOME REDSKIN PEANUTS, HUMAN CONSUMPTION IF POSSIBLE, EASILY GOT BUT A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE. |
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| Speight |
| November 20, 2005, 1:33pm |
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When do you gives peanuts for pigeons? |
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| Speight |
| November 20, 2005, 5:28pm |
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I will try and gives peanuts on my ybs next year. but is it ok to give them every day or not? |
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westburylofts |
| November 20, 2005, 7:38pm |
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We Give Peanuts to our birds all year round, But only the one's from the health food shop, for humans
We only give the yb's a small amount crushed as a treat when returning from training tosses, and races
RAY
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| Speight |
| November 20, 2005, 8:01pm |
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Thanks Ray..the red skin nuts right? |
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| November 20, 2005, 9:36pm |
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YES CRAIG THEY ARE THE ONE'S MATE
RAY
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| Speight |
| November 21, 2005, 12:49pm |
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