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Quoted from celtic

anybody ever tried the concentrated garlic paste you get in a tube ? just a thought ...would it be as effective ?

I've always steered clear of processed garlic because of the possible effect the processing has had on the active ingredient, alicin, which has a very short life - its measured in hours I think ?

Also feel that if the processed stuff is for cooking, then it is being used to taste the meal rather than for medicinal or therapeutic reasons, as cooking garlic [heat] destroys the alicin.

Bruno i was meaniing using it straight from the tube, therefore no heating off  it would be involved, do you mean it is heated up during the proccessing of it ?
cheers

Quoted from celtic

do you mean it is heated up during the proccessing of it ?
cheers

Yes. I don't know for certain what has been done to it , but as it is intended for human consumption, it seems likely that heat will be used during the processing.

Cheers

one whole garlic bulb in the water and just keep topping it up through the winter months. untill the bulb ahs gone all mushy then replace it with another! this is what I have done over the past few years.

I've seen the threads - but what exactly does the Garlic do for the birds?

I have waterers that are about a cup and a half of liquid - would I just peel a bulb and toss it in?

Any suggestions on what I should do to help them out, as this will be my second time breeding birds, and I want nothing to go wrong {like the first time - female was eggbound and died at some point in the night.  } this time.

Anything would be greatly appreciated - I'm hoping to be able to increase myself to a small flock of white homers to rent out for weddings/birthdays etc for flying and such.

click on this link for a bit of info about it


http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1188092774/

Garlic is a great natural product and in my opinion should always be included in your weekly management,perhaps 2-3 days a week in the drinkers,just peel a clove and pop it in.Garlic aids respiration,blood circulation,lowers the worm count,makes the feathers soft,reduces mucus,deters insect life,is anticeptic,therefore helps fight infections,the list goes on.

Thank you both - It seems when I get home from classes today I will be digging out the garlic form the kitchen, and dropping a clove in both waterers. ^^

Thanks for the link Tammy.

Where in arizona are you from hamster girl

Cup and a half is about 300ml or roughly 7th of size of my 2 litre drinker and I crush half a garlic bulb [5 or 6 cloves] into that.

For your own drinker, I think half of one clove would be enough.  

Bruno - righto, thanks for the advice. Good to know that maybe this time around I can breed my ybs and get some bebe's of their own... Minus disaster. ^^

Chrissy is right about the insect life we used to give it to the dogs to keep the tick off

used garlic in my pigeons bath for a long time, to get the real benifit for drinking garlic should be crushed, not put in in lumps or bulbs,

Quoted from the fifer

used garlic in my pigeons bath for a long time, to get the real benifit for drinking garlic should be crushed, not put in in lumps or bulbs,

Yes I tend to crush the garlic before I put it in the water to steep overnight.

Quoted from chickadee

Yes I tend to crush the garlic before I put it in the water to steep overnight.

yes read it in a book once, crushing it changes, and gives out the substance which is good, also all chefs crush it before use.

Quoted from the fifer

yes read it in a book once, crushing it changes, and gives out the substance which is good, also all chefs crush it before use.

Yes I also always crush the garlic before putting it into whatever I'm cooking, so whats good enough for us is good enough for our little birds.

Quoted from Hamster Girl

what exactly does the Garlic do for the birds?

The original threads on garlic were merged into one and you will find 2 longish  articles in it, one a discussion on the use of garlic in pigeons and the other a paper collating all the nasty stuff that garlic has been scientifically proven to 'see off'.

I've now made that thread sticky on Health Board

http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1132321170/

Quoted from chrissy

Garlic is a great natural product and in my opinion should always be included in your weekly management,perhaps 2-3 days a week in the drinkers,just peel a clove and pop it in.Garlic aids respiration,blood circulation,lowers the worm count,makes the feathers soft,reduces mucus,deters insect life,is anticeptic,therefore helps fight infections,the list goes on.

Probably one of the best products that can be given to the birds and it does so much good  and costs a fraction of many other so called remedies that claim to do the same but cost a fortune .

one thing should say about natural products such as garlic and cider vinegar you do not see the real benefits unless used for a long period of time, the changes wont take place over night, or if your only using it for 2-3 days per week!