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Speight
November 29, 2005, 9:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Could you put two Garlic and Raw Garlic topic into one topic please?
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its a lot colder up there than here .....
http://www.reallygarlicky.com/main.html
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THEMAN
December 11, 2005, 9:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I use minced dehydrated garlic in their feed.  The wife picks it up for me when she goes to the grocery store and I put it in their feed daily.   I like this better than in the water because you dont have the slime in the waterer.  Gives the loft a nice garlic smell as well( must be in the droppings lol).

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bruno
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Came across this article with a difference on garlic. Names organisms which garlic has been PROVED effective against (which I've highlighted) and gives references to the research that proved it. Also recommends crushing the garlic clove, fresh & raw.  And all for 25 pence a bulb in the UK, one bulb does my team of 32 pigeons for a week.  


GARLIC (ALLIUM SATIVUM)

Garlic is taken orally to reduce high blood pressure, prevent heart disease and artherosclerosis, treat earaches, stimulate both the immune and circulatory systems and prevent cancer. Other applications include treating diabetes, arthritis, colds and flu, fighting stress and fatigue and maintaining healthy liver function (1).

Antibacterial and antifungal properties
Various official monographs list garlic as being both antibacterial and antimycotic (suppresses the growth of certain fungi) (1) (3) (4). Consequently garlic is administered to treat Helicobacter pylori infections (2) (5), and to inhibit the growth of Candida albicans, particularly in cases of recurrent yeast infections (6).

Anthelmintic properties (ie against worms)
Parasitic worms are also apparently susceptible to garlic. The World Health Organisation “Monographs on Selected Medicinal Plants” reports garlic has having been used to treat roundworm (Ascaris strongyloides) and hookworm (Ancylostoma caninum and Necator americanus) infestations, listing allicin as the active anthelmintic constituent (4).

Anitiviral properties
The United States Department of Agriculture lists garlic as being a viricide on its Medicinal Plant Database (7).

The garlic bulb contains an amino acid derivative called alliin which is in fact odourless and contains no antibacterial properties. However when the garlic bulb is crushed or ground, alliin comes into contact with an enzyme (alliinase) that converts the alliin into allicin. Allicin is the reason for garlic’s distinctive odour, and is a potent antibacterial agent (8.

The use of garlic in history goes back thousands of years, with Hippocrates, Galen, Pliny the Elder, and Dioscorides all reporting its use for various conditions, including parasites, low energy, and respiratory and digestive disorders. Garlic’s reputation in Western medicine was established in 1858 when Louis Pasteur confirmed its antibacterial properties (6). Traditional Chinese medicine has used garlic since at least A.D. 510 (6), and is still using it for amoebic and bacterial dysentery, tuberculosis, scalp ringworm and vaginal trichomoniasis.

Other folk medicine cultures have traditionally used garlic for treating colds and flu, fever, coughs, headache, hemorrhoids asthma, arteriosclerosis, low blood pressure, both hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia, cancer and as an aphrodisiac (amongst other things) (1) (3). Garlic has also been used to treat pinworms (3).

Antiparasitic properties
The antiparasitic nature of garlic is demonstrated in the uses to which it has been applied in folk medicines around the world. For example, it has been traditionally used to treat parasitic worms in such diverse cultures as East Asia, India, Italy, North America, Peru, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia and the West Indies. Traditional practitioners in Greece have long used garlic extracts to protect against amoebic infections (9).

Effective Antimicrobial
Laboratory tests (both in test tubes and in animals) have demonstrated that fresh garlic has antimicrobial activities (including antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal, antiprotozoal, and antiparasitic) (1) (5) (9).
Particular activity against B. subtilis, E. coli, P. mirabilis, Salmonella typhi, methicillin-resistant Staph aureus, Staph faecalis, salmonella enteritidis, and V. cholerae have been noted (1) (5). Bacteria shown to be susceptible to garlic in the test tube include species from Staphylococcus, Escherichia, Proteus, Salmonella, Providencia, Citrobacter, Klebsiella, Hafnia, Aeromonas, Vibrio and Bacillus genera (5). Human trials as well as in vitro studies have shown that garlic consumption is active against Mycobacterium tuberculosis (9).

An epidemiological study in China among 214 people from the Shandong province suggested that garlic consumption may have a protective effect against H. pylori infection and the development and progression of precancerous gastric lesions (10).

Effective Antifungal
Fungi demonstrated to be susceptible to garlic in lab tests include the genera Microsporum, Epidermophyton, Trichophyton, Rhodotorula, Torulopsis, Trichosporon, Cryptococcus neoformans, and Candida, including Candida albicans. It is reported that garlic is more effective against pathogenic yeasts than nystatin, especially Candida albicans (1) (5) (9) (11).

Effective Antiamoebic (single celled animals & plants)
Essential garlic oils were active on Entamoeba histolytica in clinical trials, confirming its potential for antiamoebic activity (9).

Effective Antiprotozoan (single celled animal)
Antiprotozoan activity has also been demonstrated in lab tests against Paramecium caudatum (9). Garlic has also shown itself in lab tests to have several immune-enhancing effects (5).

Fresh garlic, garlic extracts, oil and oleoresin have been generally recognised as safe when consumed in amounts commonly found in food. Garlic has been used for medicinal purposes in clinical studies lasting up to 4 years without reports of significant toxicity. It is possibly unsafe when consumed in large amounts, with the American Herbal Products Association Botanical Safety Handbook claiming that high doses could be dangerous or even fatal for children. There are, however, no reported cases of significant adverse reactions or mortality in children associated with the ingestion of garlic.

There are no published reports of garlic adversely affecting pregnancy, although it would be wise to avoid consuming large amounts during these times. (Theoretically large amounts of garlic might act as an abortifacient causing uterine contractions.) There is a lack of reliable information dealing with the use of garlic while breastfeeding, but it has been generally accepted that consuming it in amounts commonly found in food would be safe (1).


Article by Mark Porter.


REFERENCES
(1) Jellin JM, Batz F, Hitchens K. Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database. Third Edition. Stockton, California: Therapeutic Research Faculty, 2000.
(2) Blumenthal M, et. al. ed. The Complete German Commission E Monographs: Therapeutic Guide to Herbal Medicines. Austin: American Botanical Council, 1998.
(3) Lueng AY, Foster S. Encyclopedia of Common Natural Ingredients Used in Foord, Drugs and Cosmetics. Second Edition. New York, NY: Wiley & Sons, 1996.
(4) World Health Organisation (WHO) (1999). Monographs on Selected Medicinal Plants. Volume 1. WHO, Geneva.
(5) Barnes J, Anderson LA, Phillipson JD, Herbal Medicines: A Guide for Healthcare Professionals. Second Edition. London: Pharmaceutical Press, 2002.
(6) “Garlic (Allium Sativum).” Vitaminevi Herbal Index. 1998. Accessed April 4, 2003. http://www.vitaminevi.com/Herb/Garlic.htm
(7) “Garlic, Allium sativum.” United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Medicinal Plant Database. Beltsville Agricultural Research Center. (Accessed May 30, 2003). http://www.pl.barc.usda.gov/plant_detail.cfm?plant_id=84
(8. Foster S, Tyler VE. Tyler’s Honest Herbal: A Sensible Guide to the Use of Herbs and Related Remedies. Fourth Edition. New York: The Haworth Herbal Press, 1999.
(9) Ross I. Medicinal Plants of the World: Chemical Constituents, Traditional and Modern Medicinal Uses. Totowa: Humana Press, 1999
(10) You WC, Zhang L, Gail MH, Ma JL, Chang YS, Blot WJ, Li JY, Zhao CL, Liu WD, Li HQ, Hu YR, Bravo JC, Correa P, Fraumeni JF Jr. Helicobacter pylori infection, garlic intake and precancerous lesions in a Chinese population at low risk of gastric cancer. Int J Epidemiol. 1998 Dec; 27 (6): 941-4.
(11) Arora DS, Kaur J. Antimicrobial activity of spices. Int J Antimicrob Agents. 1999 Aug; 12 (3): 257-62.



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i put a full bulb in a pop bottle 2lts fill it up with warm water.leave for a few days then i put a table spoon to 2ltrs water once a week,i keep the cloves in the bottle all the time.Idont make anymore up untill i have used that one which is about 12 months.
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So whya keep it in a botlle, why not keep the cloves in the water for the birds 12 months, ok people say that thay do not need it all year round, as the longer the garlic is in the water, the stonger the  dossage but i myself leave it in the birds water , but bearing in mind, i change the water & wash the drinkers out every day so i do not get the residue hanging around the bottom of the drinker, and my birds get the same dossage of garlic.in the water each day no higher on lower, as the drinkers always get put in after the birds have eaten & not before.Thay dont seem to worry about the cloves floating around & thay have a good drink aswell. Just a thought  Speckled.



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use the old garlic bulbs thats left in bottom of bottle , refill with water, leave it for 3-5 days & use it for birds bath.


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Quoted from schouwman71
i put a full bulb in a pop bottle 2lts fill it up with warm water.


Might as well throw it out. If you heat garlic, you kill the active ingredient, allicin.

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very good link


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Brought to top for Tony_C
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garlic in the water 24/7 all over the winter just top up the water
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Same here, birds seem to be thriving, cloves in empty milk cartons topped up each day .


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best youngsters i have ever reared when i 1st started it, just throw the blubs intop the drinker and take them out when they have gone all slimy lmao
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TAKE A FEW SMALL BULBS FROM UR MAIN ONE AND PLANT THEM IN A POT, WHEN GROWN  THE BIRDS LOVE PICKING AND EATING THEM, EVEN NICE TO CHOP UP AND PUT IN UR COOKING


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but the women not to keen on you then fifer, not nice been in a club stinking of garlic!! was on a train once this bloke was eatting garlic raw lie it was a apple!! stank!
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ITS GOOD FOR U, BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW U USE IT AS TO HOW U SMELL, I USE IT IN MY PIGEON BATH IT KEEPS THEM KLEAN, AND THE LOFT DOES SMELL OF IT BUT IT KEEPS THE BEESTIES AWAY, VERY GOOD IN THE BATH WATER, ALSO GOOD FOR SPRAYING ON UR ROSES KEEPS THE GREENFLY AT BAY


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greatest thing since sliced bread, has so many uses ,,,and natural
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learn something new everyday not just pigeon things even gardening tips now!!
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got to be the best tip i have had on this forum, using Garlic.


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CHOP UP SOME GARLIC PUT IT IN A PLASTIC BOTTLE LET LIE FOR A WEEK, PUT IT IN THE BIRDS BATH WATER, U WILL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE ON THEIR FEATHERS ALSO KEEPS LICE ETC AWAY, PUT SOME IN A SPRAY AND SPRAY AROUND UR LOFT FLOOR, AND IN GAPS IT KEEPS FLIES ETC AWAY, ALSO SMELLS GOOD AND GOOD FOR UR BIRDS NOSTRELS KEEPS THEM KLEAR, AND AS SAID GOOD FOR PLANTS


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