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i now use the surplus garlic drinking water for their baths, thanks to fifer, & had no lice problems whats so ever, ( just glad no one eats pigeons anymore, as i bet they would taste quite nice self marinated in garlic) lol.

Thanks for your input.
                           Think of all that money I've wasted over the years boiling kettles, that could've bought me a very nice pair of stock birds!!!

I have started using the garlic pulp with my cider vinegar found it much easier

i remember the chap, a member of this forum, who will know what im saying. he asked me to handle his birds before he sent them the race, there was a lovely cheq pied, absolutely stinking with garlic, this bird topped the fed the next day, but the point was it was sticking out in condition,,,,somebody on this forum is going to chuckle   [ or belt me one]

I put the peeled cloves in my empty waterers and bang them around until they are quite bruised and mashed and then add cold water some times I put them in a 350 degree oven for about an hour then I squeeze them out on sourdough bread with a little butter I dont know if this helps the birds but I sure like it ....

I want to know what Cider Vinegar do in pigeons's body, do you think good or bad to give pigeons Cider Vinegar in the water, mix Garlic and Honey on the race days

No one knows about Cider Vinegar, will ask top flyers,  

We use it here if the dropping loosen up, 1 teaspoon to a gal of water for 2 days will firm them right up with nice white tops

speight a lot of the top belgian lofts swear by cider vinegar ,tried it out on the young birds for one season ,found it tightened up the droppings ,and the skin texture on the breast improved ( reduced scale ) also found it usefull for breakig down the fat on the hens before pairing ? not used it for a few years now , prefer a tea made from stinging nettles does the same job .....ray

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speight a lot of the top belgian lofts swear by cider vinegar ,tried it out on the young birds for one season ,found it tightened up the droppings ,and the skin texture on the breast improved ( reduced scale ) also found it usefull for breakig down the fat on the hens before pairing ? not used it for a few years now , prefer a tea made from stinging nettles does the same job .....ray

Ray,tea made from stinging nettles what does it do as i have plenty of them at my lofts believe me.How do you do it and has anyone else done this

carl do you mean info on stinging nettles ? thiis is how i use them , cut the top four inches from the plant enough to fill half a medium saucpan , add half a saucepan of water ,bring them to the boil and simmer about 20 mins crush about four sticks of cinnamon into it allow to cool strain it ,give about haf a cup to 2 litres of water ...ray  ( watch the down fall of em )

Thanks ray theres one i aint heard before.What does the nettles have in them to do the birds any good.

carl first read about the use of these ftom an article by dutchman leen boers ,many years ago ,tried them saw the difference and have used them ever since , i know janssen bros used dead nettle , the plants are rich in minerals and vitamins b and c do a search on NETTLES ? gets those little blood vessels bursting along the keel ? what a lot of people refer to as Form spots ....ray

Speight, There is a good article on this site about Apple Cider Vinegar.
Good reading.

http://www.pipay.be/artikelsnew/talaber/apple.htm


Yours in the Sport - Bill.

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Speight, There is a good article on this site about Apple Cider Vinegar.
Good reading.

http://www.pipay.be/artikelsnew/talaber/apple.htm


Yours in the Sport - Bill.

Thanks Bill

cider vinegar contains many compounds that are good for animals it has also been shown to increase PH and help your immune system to ward off antigens the live cultures in orgaic vinegar also foster the growth of good bacteria within an organism

Bit puzzled by one or two items in the article Bill,  especially the bit about carbon dioxide and the body 'craving' for it.  

Yes, carbon dioxide is the fizzy bit in a fizzy drink... but added only to give it fizz!  

Because it is a dangerous gas which suffocates by removing oxygen from the atmosphere and it kills - like 'black damp' in coal mines; Black band fire extinguishers also use CO2 gas to put out fires by depriving them of oxygen.

'Removing more CO2 from the blood than normal' just doesn't make sense either as for every breath out, there's another one in ... achieving balance of gases.

And only organic apples ripen?  

The good Doctor also advises the everyday use of antibiotics in general pigeon management - I would therefore double-check anything he has to say on any subject!!  

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0GCU/is_n6_v14/ai_20152545

It amazing me, when i looked at this link, about Cider Vinegar. which is i got arthritis back, and feets called Ankylosing Sponitdys.  but it says can cure arthritis on the website,

i have the same ,ankylosing spondulitisits[ no joke,],tried cider vinegar, never helped, but now trying, glucosamine sulphate,   thats how i cant sleep now, very painfull,i have every sympathy for you mate. as far as the birds go, cider vinegar is good . but i think we can all get carried away ,with too, many additives in the water.p.s hope your keeping better than me, at least we an help one another, as its quite a relatively rare desease, some forum members have been a great help to me, cheers mate, if i can be of any help, just p.m. me

Jimmy, do you still taking tablets?.                and how're you in the winter time?