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Roland
April 17, 2007, 8:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I'd take the yellow out with a match stick - cotton bud even, and give it a part tab of what a woman uses when she has thrush. Cleanses is proper. Remember there are nearly 30 different strains - and pigeon having a mild strain preasent at all time is a must - and Canker quickly adapts and treatments are soon rendered usless, good point is then change the treatment used after using it twice.


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expat1
April 17, 2007, 11:17am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi
The best Product over in Belgium for Canker (Trico) is a product called Trico Groen. Excellent stuff. We treated our Widowhood Cocks Last August and Tested Them with A Swab test about 3 weeks ago, A negative was the result so the product keeps it at bay a fairly long time. What it contains i cannot tell you but it does the Job, It cannot be got in the UK
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Quoted from jimmy white
many differant ways ,, one way is thruogh the navel of a newly born chick other ways are from carriers , they can even catch it slightly tearing their mouth with a peice of grain , sometimes it can be a secondary infection,, man many ways , many differant kinds of canker , usualy made worse by dirt and stress


All pigeons carry canker to a certain degree. The mild formas are a blessing as that virant will be doing no harm and keeping many other forms at bay.
It is a myth that it won't return, it is nothing to be ashamed of, like getting a rat or mouse in the shed at the bottom of a garden 99% of all people have them... especially in the coldr weather when the come in from the fields... likewise with a woman getting thrush... no prevention. Indeed the reality is that if kept completely clear the stronger viarants will take hold. Like I say one must keep changing the treatment for it quickly becomes immuned to them.
I had some birds of a ole felloew that had pigeons for over 60 years ... folks outside of me let him down constantlt, and all promises of 'Training never came off ... I travelled over 10 miles to his loft then went back the way I came to train them. He wouldn't allow that. Any way he had never ever treated for canker, Ecoli, and just the Sheep 'Grig, for worms once a year. So he gave me the pigeons he'd selected to keep as a stock loft and packed up ... yes they went around in droves to help clear his birds lol. Any way first thing I did was give the Trichno from Rhonfeld or whatever it's spelt, a triple for the three Ecoli, Canker etc. I thought the flood gates were open - Had sent a example to Johnny 11 foe his comments... just a slight bit of no importance -£2500 - £3000 Micro machinary.
Golly I thought I'd opened flood gates, absolute drenched the floor, never mind wet droppings... I put in a higher balance of protein and crossed fingers. Spoke to Johnny and the answer was as expected.... needn't and shouldn't have treated! Told Brian and he said 'You What'! Why! He never has treated!!! took about two months to clear and they slowly come around. Water given was a day old with open top, or from a spring only... Yes they have bred a great round now nearly four months later... times I was about to let them all go. Like they should say, 'If it is broken YOU CAN'T fix it'. So a little viarant is good as a World renowned Vet told me for the reasons given above.


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All pigeons carry canker and need some resistance to it. I would treat the whole flock, Sparticks will do. I would use a tablespoon of cider vinegar and half a teaspoon of milton on alternate days. One of my best stock hens has a susceptabilty to canker but the first nest are always good. Every loft is likely to have its own variant of canker, abit like the common cold. IT ISN'T  


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You should also try giving them probiotic as well at first I was a skeptic but now I dont think you can get enough of it down them I give 2 kinds and also have a food pellet that contains it as well as brewers yeast
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has anyone used chevi-col for canker ive just picked sum up & it says give 2capsules per bird upto 500g body weight for 5days & in each capsule 12.0mg just seem such alot to give em for 5days!! or is there anything better out there
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one must keep changing the 'Remedy' used as canker gets immuned to it very very quickly ... like after twice, and as there are at least 30 different strains....


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Quoted from Roland
one must keep changing the 'Remedy' used as canker gets immuned to it very very quickly ... like after twice, and as there are at least 30 different strains....


Maybe its the other way around, Roland: people using 'remedies' have caused the nasty strains of 'canker' to become immune.

As you have posted many times before - and I think you are 100% spot on - its the low levels of a mild strain of canker in the bird which confer natural immunity to the nastier ones. It's exactly the same principle as vaccination, the pigeon's own immune system does the rest..

Agree with others, a bird that gets into that condition needs outed ASAP - for all the right reasons ... its immune system is shot and it is a danger to the other birds in the loft.
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Flagyl, Canestan, Ronidazole 10%, Copper Sulphate crystals ("Bluestones"), even Bicarb will keep it in check.
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How do you administer bicarbonade of soda against canker?
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How do you administer bicarbonade of soda against canker?


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BLUESTORM
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My tip (for what its worth), When weaning young birds about 24 to 27 days give them 1/2 a canker pill,  I do and i have had no problems with canker.
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Quoted from slugmonkey
There was a post on here about treating for canker a long time ago and it basically said there were about 8 identified strains with most being harmless and a couple being fatal about 90% of the time to birds that were previously unexposed most birds lived through the lesser strains and these that were later exposed to the more toxic forms were affected less with very few deaths
Using this info I quit treating for canker about 3 years ago and have had no visible problems with it,, I do treat my race team about 1/2 way through season but not breeders, bicarb soda alters PH and probably VERY little else ( it is used to alter the PH in swimming pools ) and guess what else I do.....
Cider Vinegar which as we all know alters the PH in the blood my guess canker probably has a real low tolerance for ph changes
I dont know just my guess
got something there slug , in regards PH  and cider vinegar , good post

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